March 28, 2007

No More Videos & Zionism & Anti Discussion

Filed under: Current Events,Website Kvetching — Reb Moshe @ 7:00 pm

I cannot doing anymore videos. There is not enough donations to carry on anything but the minimum to keep the site maintained. Even when I say this, I am doing far more work then anyone can imagine. There will be new videos though as I will be slowly converting old video files to a new video format, unfortunately, the software costs money so right now I can’t even begin this unless someone can find me rm to wmv converter that is FREE and ACTUALLY works. Most don’t seem too.

This week, again, the Zionist Israeli Government turns against their own people. They bring disaster to both Zionists and Anti-Zionists alike as they dismantle yet another Jewish Settlement. Who are they fooling now? This is certainly not a move for peace or the benefit of the Jewish people in anyones eyes. It is simply a political move.

35 Comments

  1. Moshe,

    Have you tried SUPER?
    It is free and works well too.
    Go to http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
    and scroll down to the bottom of the page. There should be four download sites to choose from. It’s free, so it doesn’t hurt to try it.

    Comment by Crtomir — March 28, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

  2. After reading your anti zionist rantings its not too hard to fathom why G-d will not provide you with an income. Rectify the sin of the spies in your heart and ask HaShem to forgive you for speaking evil of His Land and do not perpetrate the galut lies and inventions about Yishuv Haaretz. Do this before the land spits you out (yes I know you’d like nothing more than to be back in the american fleshpots)

    Comment by yossel — March 29, 2007 @ 12:37 am

  3. Yossel, I believe you are trying to publicly curse me on my blog, like our friend Bilam did. You compare me to the spies? Okay, lets take a poll here, how many after visiting my site want to visit Eretz Yisrael? Now lets take a second poll, how many after reading Yossel’s post want to visit Eretz Yisrael? I don’t know if you have noticed by you just became a spy here yourself

    There we go, Great software find my friend. I will try it out soon, thanks my friend.

    p.s. It is also hard to do new videos when the camera is broken, if you look at the last few videos, you will see focus problems. I had to do a lot of editing because of this. 

     

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 29, 2007 @ 1:42 am

  4. Yossel, Eventhough we’re against prematurely establishing a state, we still love the land and people. We just feel that the time is not right yet to re-settle and we should have waited until mashiach comes. – I understand how you feel and that you believe it’s our obligation to settle the land, but we believe that it’s not yet time. We’re in golus for a reason and eventhough it may seem that we should take the oppertunity to re-establish, it’s not up to us to decide when to do that. It’s up to G-d to decide when we are ready. And He’ll let us know when He sends mashiach.

    Comment by sharona — March 29, 2007 @ 1:28 pm

  5. Maybe I’m in the dark here, but I don’t see any hate of Israel in Reb Moshe. Watch his videos. You will see genuine love for Israel, for Torah, and for Jews. What is this guy Yossel talking about? I am in America and I can definitely say that Moshe’s website is NOT anti-Zionist. Just watch the videos about the war with Hizbullah last year and you will see where Moshe’s heart truly lies.

    People like Yossel are the ones who are filled with hate. Even hate against other Jews who do not share their particular political view.

    Comment by Crtomir — March 29, 2007 @ 4:43 pm

  6. So the camera has a focus problem? Is it a mechanical problem? Or electrical problem? Is the lens clean? What kind of camera do you have? How old is it? Sometimes, the whole thing is still working good, but a small part is broken and so the whole thing can’t be fixed. It sounds like you have to use just manual focus now.

    I’m sorry about that.

    Comment by Crtomir — March 29, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

  7. Either the glass isn’t in alignment or its electrical. I tried hitting it against the table, didn’t help, lol

    It is about 1.5 years. Panasonic 3cd model. I broght it to a repairman and he said forget about fixing it. You see, I can focus on something and in the middle of the video, it will unfocus. Someone sujested I do plain audio shirim again now, If someone sends me an mp3 that records, I will try. Again though, If I am busy converting videos, dealing with programmers, designers, emailing websites too see if they want to advertise with us and answering emails, there is not much time to do anything. I barely have time to work but I have to help my friends and will always make time to respond to emails.

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 29, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

  8. Yossel…. relax…

    I, too, am a staunch Zionist. I believe the fact that Hashem gave us Eretz Yisrael is proof that settling it will help bring Moshiach.

    My logic is as follows: Remember,, every “daled amot” (approximately 8 feet) traversed in Israel is an other mitzvah. Is it less of a mitzvah to walk in the land because a secular government built the sidewalk?? Of course not.

    If it’s a mitzvah to walk in the land, how much more so is it a mitzvah to settle it!!! Does not the performance of mitzvot bring our Moshiach closer??? Of course it does.

    Reb Moshe is not an anti-Zionist. He is a Chassidic man that belongs to a group whose leaders follow the teachings of Reb Yoel Teitlebaum, the old Satmar Rebbe. He was against the Midinah because the many of the Zionist leaders of his day were viewed as more secular than religious. The “Yeshiva University” mentality was considered as secular as christianity, and to many, worse. Secularism was an affront to all Chassidus stood for. The fight against the establishment of the state has its roots in these issues.

    Everything is relative, however. The differences between those Chassidic leaders and Zionist leaders are the same as the differences between Satmar and Mir or Telz today. Both groups are devoutly religious. You can’t say Reb Aharon of Satmar is more frum than Reb Chaim Stein of Telz. They just hold differing views. Can you imagine someone calling Reb Yoshe Ber Solevachek secular???

    Personally, I vehemently disagree with the anti-Zionist view point. Personal feelings aside, I believe if we look at what Reb Moshe wrote, it was not anti-Zionist, but anti-government. I agree with his views of the Olmert government. It’s corrupt, inept, and a shameful excuse for leadership. That does not mean I hate Israel. The opposite, I love Israel so much that I hate what these idiots are doing to it.

    The miracle is that we as a Jewish nation have a representative government that is responsible for building the precious jewel we call Eretz Yisrael. After so many of us were wiped out in WW 2, how anyone can debate the need for a Jewish Homeland is beyond me.

    Reb Moshe loves Israel. He moved there. He married there. He is raising his family there. Bombs blow up in his backyard. He doesn’t flee. He inhabits the land of Israel. I know what’s in his heart. He is a Zionist that cannot admit his connection to the holy land because anti-Zionism is fashionable in his community. It is fashionable… the “in thing” if you will, in the Chassidic world. Those that would profess Zionist views would be ostracized from the Chassidic community. It’s terrible, but true…. And to be honest, it makes me very angry.

    I only wish that one day Reb Moshe will be able to say aloud what he could never say publicly now.

    Comment by Jimmy — March 29, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

  9. P.S. That’s not to say all Zionist leaders were religious. Far from it. Some such as Herzl, Trumpldor, and Jabotinsky were indeed secular jews that did not show an affiliation with any frum group.

    Keep in mind, however, “irreligious” in the late 1800’s and early-mid 1900’s is much different than “irreligious” today.

    Comment by Jimmy — March 29, 2007 @ 9:44 pm

  10. If this is what a Zionist government is capable of, who would want to call them such anymore? THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!

    http://www.tsofar.com/zofar/mashtap/show.asp?id=545

    One could say the same thing about Ani-Zionism after neturay karta. You know, I can’t even outreach to non-religious anymore after these nut jobs went to Iran. Everyone thinKs if you are chassidic, you agree with Neturay Karta. I have met thousands of chassidim in my life. Only one of them was Neturay Karta and he left them as soon as Satmar ostracized them.

    At this point, the only real Zionists and Anti-Zionists are the older folks from the previous generation. Obviously, a Zionist Government could never act like they do nor would any anti-zionist of the old day ever act like some do today. Today, there is NO zionist or anti-zionist movements that make much sense.

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 29, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

  11. Neturei Karta, I spent some shobossim with them in New York (funny story, they think Michigan is IN Chicago), once after i came to the Americas after the Hezbollah war. They have some good points. The 3 oaths for instance.

    I lean more towards Kahane than NK (big difference?), but NK gives me a reality check every once in a while.

    I am sad when people say to kill NK, I say they must do Teshuvah. They claim to represent “Tens of thousands of Jews world wide.” who?! Satmar denounces them!!! plus, they throw stones at late busses on erev shobbos, breaking shobbos for people breaking shobbos, and they protest on shobbos, no eruv!!

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — March 29, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

  12. http://torahvideo.com/jewish-torah/tapes/gush6.mp3
    My Audio Shir last year before Gush Katif was expelled. I was also asked to give a haskamah on a sefer which proved the expulsion was forbidden even according anti-zionists and most of what I said here was printed as an haskamah to the sefer Halacha Brurah which was sold all over Israel. This sefer was written by someone who is anti-zionist and grew up around Satmar Chassidim. Believe it or not, he was the biggest Rabbi to stand up to the Gush Katif expulsion. He stood up more then those who are Zionists to save the land and its people. My mp3 on this issue was also heard by thousands. What have you done yossel to save the Gush Katif folks? So again, today, the only way to be truthful of ones soul is to realize the true complexity of this issue. At this point, every Jew has a responsibility to be anti the current israeli Government. Mark my words, you have no idea how close Olmert is too giving up the Golan right now. Also, the British Sailors that are captured, are going to be held a long time and used as bait. Iran is very happy to have caught them and will try to use them as defense shields.

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 29, 2007 @ 11:13 pm

  13. Pshah! the Iran thing! Its so scary don’t even talk about it. to give up the Golan would be the final screw up in the existance of “Midinas Yisroel”has Israel forgot how it was WON? How important it is, that it is Israels strateagic advantage over syria?!! If Israel gives away Hevron or the Golan, I will be only Anti-Israel, for Neturei Karta would stand correct, if Israeli Government is stupid enough to give away this, or Hevron shelanu, we will never see it again, it would be proof for me that the Zionists in charge have no right to be there, and I would do anything to get them out.

    The Lubavitcher Rebbe said to the Prime minister concerning the Sinai, not to give away one inch of eretz yisroel. that to do so would result im more war, for the arabs would come back asking for more. The Rebbe stand correct.

    Have you ever asked your self who these people are? Just because they lead the most beautiful land in the world does not make them Tzadikim!!

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — March 30, 2007 @ 12:14 am

  14. Jimmy I realise all that. But unfortunately it is not only the hassidim who are problematic-it is the entire religious leadership-whom HaKadosh Baruch Hu holds to a higher standard than the secularists in the knesset. What bothers me about the Reb Moshe types is while putting down the government (and too 100% agree that it stinks and that I hate them for what they do) they are still willing to take a welfare cheque and cricise the state that defends them against the arab enemy. I’d like to see how long any of the non zionist hassidim would last if the IDF would one day decide not to fight and let the arabs have a free for all with all the Jews who dont want their protection. (and yes I say this to my settler friends too who think more along the lines that I do). Being a follower of Rav Kook ztvk”l and Rav Kahane zt”l I cannot ignore the nonsense that supposed pious Jews spread in the name of the Torah and other Rabbeim. If people think that G-d’s mitzvot are a joke ie. yishuv haaretz then they should be in Eretz Yisrael to begin with, its bad enough when the secular leftists do that. The entire anti zionist position is filled with lies, escuses and nonsense that has been debunked by hundre4ds of rabbis through the ages. Those devices may have been fit for the pre state shtetl days but they do not hold any water anymore.

    ASA the 3 oaths are a bogus excuses. The oaths were conditional upon the nations not subjugating us too much. If you think that after inquisitions, pogroms and holocausts we were not subjugated enough you should pay a visit to the ovens at aushwitz for a history lesson.

    As for the mistaken notion that somehow Rav Nachman of breslev would have had anything to do with the anti zionist position of many of today’s Breslevers they out to read the book “This Land is My land” and various sections of Likutei Moharan that are devoted to this issue.

    Comment by yossel — March 30, 2007 @ 12:19 am

  15. “Reb Moshe is not an anti-Zionist. He is a Chassidic man that belongs to a group whose leaders follow the teachings of Reb Yoel Teitlebaum, the old Satmar Rebbe.” ….I don’t think so. Most Chassidim are anti Zionist because the origins are not very pleseant, Reb Moshe is not a Yoeli, lol. He’s Breslov! not Satmar. Haha, otherwise his sons name would be Yoel not Nachman. haha.

    You can be anti-zionist and Pro-Jew. We do not like the secularist Zionists, but we Love the fellow Yidden who reside under them. The Jewish people are a Nation, you cant change that with a blue and white flag.

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — March 30, 2007 @ 12:23 am

  16. First, Neturay Karta would never stand okay in my eyes. In fact, please send them too me so I can help find them away to repent. Do you know how many Jews I can’t reach anymore because of the damage they have done? Secondly, asa, why does it have to reach a point of actual giving away the Golan for you to realize you must stand against this leadership? Did you not watch the video, do you not see the Jews of Homesh crying?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/122004

    This is what a Zionist Government without Rabbinical supervision has brought us too. Do you know most of Israeli Jews voted for expoltion last year? Now they are slowly waking up

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 30, 2007 @ 12:23 am

  17. Oh and Reb Moshe when you say ‘look how beautiful Israel is, but there is no mitzvah to live here and the place stinks’ that is a chillul HaShem. Since your self avowed goal is to teach Torah it would be best not to teach these types of chillul HaShem to ignorant Jews in public where your sins are counted against you on a communal scale. Also if you have a problem with me offering you rebuke when you are a “Reb” and I am not, then perhaps you ought to look at your ego and yetzer to see what is the matter. The Avot teach even a wise man can learn something from a fool.

    Comment by yossel — March 30, 2007 @ 12:25 am

  18. Of course I hold that every 4 amos you walk in Israel is a mitzvah. It is a Gemarah. You see again, nobody today really understands Zionism or anti-zionism today. This is thanks to Neturay Karta and the secular Left wing Zionists who have totally confused the regular masses. Yosela, you kinda sorta cursed me during the first rebuke and it brought out my hammer. I still love though! Do you want to come for Shabbos siuda?

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 30, 2007 @ 12:36 am

  19. You think I do not have any problem with the Israeli Government?!!! I think its time for a change!! We need a JEWISH government. with AHAVAS YISROEL.

    I am saying that Israel in general would be proven un holy and un sanctified. Israel is doing its damnedest to commit suicide.

    and the 3 oaths still stand. Just because the Holocaust happened does not mean we are excused of this! It may mean we were transgressing or something, thats what Nitra say. R’ weissmandle, I know his sons. Min Hametzar.

    Do not try and make a religion out of the Holocaust like the reformies did. it is weird when people make a religion out of the attempted destruction of that same religion.

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — March 30, 2007 @ 12:44 am

  20. Yossel….

    You didn’t have to be so nasty in your opening remark. Remember, we are all Yidden. While you may not agreee with Reb Moshe’s views, please maintain a level of maturity that rises above personal insults.

    We are not arabs here. We are better than that.

    Comment by Jimmy — March 30, 2007 @ 12:53 am

  21. If all the zionist here are disagreeing with me, how come I am the only one crying on here about Homesh? Once again, we are like babies of a future generation who didn’t go out of Germany after being beaten to death, so what do we really know about Zionism, Israel and anti-zionism?

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 30, 2007 @ 12:54 am

  22. I’ll let other people answer that. I have Kachist friends and Neturei Karta friends… I do not think I will get past confusing everyone =)

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — March 30, 2007 @ 12:59 am

  23. Yossel, I am writing you one last question here. Next time your in Tzfat, are you open to us shaking hands and a hug?

    Comment by Reb Moshe — March 30, 2007 @ 1:31 am

  24. So who is Zionist? Who is Anti-Zionist. Asa is right, I am getting confused here. Perhaps it is much more complicated than I originally thought.

    Let me as some questions that might seem to come from an ignorant one.

    First the 3 oaths:
    1. That we should not rebel against the nations;
    2. That we should not go up en masse to the land of Israel;
    3. And that we should not try to bring about the end of exile through any means;

    Well, oaths #3 and #2 seem to contradict each other, in my opinion. This is because how can the Jewish people end the exile if they don’t go to Eretz Israel? Does the whole arguement hinge on the phrase “en masse”? Then exactly how many Jews per year are allowed make Aliah without breaking this oath?

    Someone please enlighten me. 🙂

    Comment by Crtomir — March 30, 2007 @ 6:47 pm

  25. ASA in the Torah G-d says “do not test Me!”. If you think that all the Jews who have been murdered in the last 2000 years (and not just the holocaust) do not constitute “subjugation” then there might be a problem with your cognitive skills. Also do not worry about what some rabbi said use your own brain and do not rely on programming by people with an agenda.

    Reb Moshe no amount of rebuke makes me have one ounce of hatred toward you or any other Jew. We are making Aliyah in the summer and I will look you up for a L’chaim. 😉 (myself and everyone in my household love your videos)

    PS. one last comment about the knesset and how different things would be were the rabbis running the show (the Sanhedrin is an exception). People have short memories; Oslo could not have been passed without the abstention by Shas which was bought by the politicians and they sold out the Torah for favours and yeshiva dollars. The rasha Sharon could not have perpetrated the Gush expulsion without the consent of the UTJ rabbis who agreed to abstain for financial incentives and benefits. We in the Torah world have no leaders today worthy of being called “leaders”.

    Comment by yossel — March 30, 2007 @ 9:20 pm

  26. What about the possibility of pulling out of Iraq, letting Iran invade and lose resources fighting their own kind,
    and then come in and mop up the dregs?

    Comment by nemoforone — March 31, 2007 @ 7:17 am

  27. Freinds I would just like to state that it is not true to say that one can not be Chassidic and a Zionist at the same time. Some of the first leaders of Mizrachi Zionism were holy men close to the Geerer Rebbe, the Aleksander Chassidim made large Mizrachi institue before the WW2 and the Lubavicher Rebbe of blessed memory was famed for his love of the Jewish state. The word Mizrach means East, this is the way we have all been facing for hudreds of years in Golus. It is not in my veiw irriligious to wait for Moshiach in our own land.

    Yisroel Schindler

    Comment by Yisroel Schindler — March 31, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

  28. First, being anti-Zionist does not mean your movement has anything to do with Satmar or any extreme like neturay karta (which has been baned by all orthodox in the world) nor think like them or hold by them.

    Second, Chassidic movements such as Gerer and Breslov which are based in Israel do not classify themselves as Zionists even though some of these institutions, not all, might be citizens or even vote.

    Third, Being Anti-Zionist means that one does not believe people should migrate to Israel just for the sake of being around Jewish people and in their homeland but rather it should mean something more genuine as far as spiritual growth and wanting to be closer to Hashem.

    Forth, Majority of all Anti-Zionists believe every 4 amos is a mitzvah that one walks in Israel.

    Fifth, Majority of all Anti-Zionists believe one is forbidden to give away land or sell it.

    Sixth, Most Anti-Zionists accept money from the Government & have citizenship but only because they feel it is the only way they can manage here. It is actually illegal to live here long term without.

    Seventh, Anti-Zionists do not feel the Government has the best intentions when it comes to elevating the Jewish people as a HOLY nation. At the same, time, Anti-Zionists do not feel the country should be run by people that want to kill them but rather that Jewish leadership run it based on the understanding that we await the final redemption which bares TRUE leadership.

    Eighth, We believe working on oneself to grow in following the Commandments is how one brings the Moshiach. If coming to Israel is done with the intention of self-growth, there is no better place in the world for one to accomplish this generally.

    As far as the mistakes mentioned during Gush Katif. I am fully aware of them and these mistakes are all over the board. We certainly haven’t learned from them, any of us.

    I hope that I have clarified the misunderstandings about the general view of Anti-Zionism in Orthodox and as you can see, it isn’t what most think. I do not like talking so much about politics unless I feel it might make a difference in the world. The difference I would like to make here is that we all unanimously understand that giving away land is not an answer for our people. We should sign petitions and should we be in a position to speak up to the right people who can intervene, stoping this madness, we should.

    I will keep this topic open a little while longer but only if I see more solidarity even between views. Coming together peacefully with the understanding that right now is not a time for being divided but united for the sake of the Jews of Gush Katif, Honesh, Golan Heights which as stated, are not permisable to give up according to both Zionists and main stream Anti-Zionists alike.

    Comment by Reb Moshe — April 1, 2007 @ 5:10 am

  29. Latest video from Homesh, if you look carefully, you will see all types of people coming together.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/TV/?act=one&id=1944

    Comment by Reb Moshe — April 1, 2007 @ 5:28 am

  30. we want Moshiach! :^)

    Comment by Kara — April 1, 2007 @ 9:51 am

  31. Reb Moshe

    I do understand that the majority of Anti-Zionists do not condone Nuturei Karta and I certainly do not mistake them for each other. My point that I made previously was simply to state that the are many Chassidim and G-d fairing Jews who are Zionists I am one of them and I would like to say that I agree with your freind Reb Jimmy that many Anti-Zionists comdem Ziomism without fully understanding what it is.

    yours Yisroel Schindler.

    Comment by Yisroel Schindler — April 2, 2007 @ 12:17 am

  32. Woa, you mentioned Aleksander, that makes me happy!

    most people think we’re extinct.

    Comment by Asa Yitzchak — April 2, 2007 @ 8:45 am

  33. You may be small now my freind by as a Historian I have made it my purpose to study all the Chassidic dyisties and in Poland before the Shoah The Aleksander were the second larges after the Ger. But I also understand that they were all Mizrakhi Zionists. The Rebbe of Aleksander is a great man I respect him al most as much as the Lubavitcher Rebbe may his name last for ever.

    Comment by Yisroel Schindler — April 2, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

  34. I withdraw some of my last comment I said that Aleksander were all Mizrakhi Zionists. This is not true I ment to say that many of them joined frum Zionist organisantions in Poland in contrast to most of the other Chassidic dyisties whom were entierly anti-Zionist

    Yisroel Schindler

    Comment by Yisroel Schindler — April 13, 2007 @ 3:09 am

  35. Aleksander were NOT and ARE NOT Zionists!
    Aleksander is thouroughly anti Zionist, in the way that Reb Moshe just described. This is true Yiddishkeit and Frumkeit.

    Comment by Yankel — January 10, 2008 @ 8:21 pm

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